Curse

dont feel no pain · Oct 02, 2005, 07:59 AM // 07:59

look guardian =5 energy= 50% block 5 secs
aegis=15 energy= 50% block 11 secs
Sheild or deflection =10energy 75% block 6 secs and a little bit of extra armor 24

What a waste of a prot elite plz nerf it back to what it used to be or at least to 10 secs

no way 10 energy is worth anything for 6 secs

rii · Oct 02, 2005, 08:59 AM // 08:59

Well, I still use it when Im being BiPed. Your a prot monk, get a +20% enchant mod on a staff..... that makes it 7s for a start.

I still actually find it very useful. 24al on a monk is quite a lot.... stack it with watch yourself and have 114al

What your actually paying 10e for is a brief period of more of less invunerability from warriors and rangers. Aegis and Guardian dont make you invunerable, just slightly tougher.... 50% is alright.... 75% indefinately is amazing.

And look at the cooldown. If it was nonelite they'd nerf the cooldown.... which is the best bit.

Xasew · Oct 02, 2005, 10:27 AM // 10:27

They should put it back to 15 energy, 1 second casting time and boost the armor bonus by ~20.
*edit*
And also so that it lasts 10 seconds.

Vermilion Okeanos · Oct 02, 2005, 10:31 AM // 10:31

If they had kept the duration, this spell would become a real looker...

It is usable, just not as pretty looking as other protection elite.

rii · Oct 02, 2005, 10:39 AM // 10:39

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Originally Posted by Xasew

They should put it back to 15 energy, 1 second casting time and boost the armor bonus by ~20.
*edit*
And also so that it lasts 10 seconds.

and anyone who touchs the target should instantly die -.-

Dont Look At My · Oct 02, 2005, 12:01 PM // 12:01

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Originally Posted by rii

and anyone who touchs the target should instantly die -.-

lol sure they should, anyone who's attack gets deflected while you have this enchantement on you, gets 50% of his damage deflected back to him
(Death to IWAY build *lol*)

entropy · Oct 02, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

OMG great idea :-). I was just about to say it. 6-7 seconds i mean cmon it just sucks soo bad now. With 15 prot it lasted 11-12 secs and with a 20% enchant staff it was STILL O.K. at best. The energy cost made it just suck. All I gotta say is if Anet tried to boost this skill they did it really badly >.<. It wasn't even a fotm or anything at all yet

stefan16 · Oct 02, 2005, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Comon, 6 seconds is just bad, while it costs 10E, you cant keep that up, they shoould make it 5E or something...

Red Locust · Oct 02, 2005, 09:25 PM // 21:25

Old shield of deflection: 13s duration for 15e., 2s. cast time.
Old SoD duration/cost: .87s/e

New shield of deflection: 7s duration for 10e., 1s. cast time.
New SoD duration/cost: .7s/e

Slightly increased cost, but more spammability (meaning more powerful when faced with heavy enchantment removal on important allies), lower cast time, and therefore more divine favor healing per energy spent.

I'd say they actually buffed it. It's now somewhat of a clutch spell, giving you the ability to neutralize warriors/rangers focusing on someone within 1s of cast. 7seconds is enough to discourage warriors/rangers, anyways. The previous SoD was a bit of a waste; 15e and 2s cast time and people would just switch targets or remove it.

dont feel no pain · Oct 02, 2005, 09:40 PM // 21:40

BAH BUT LOOK AT IT FROM THE BIGGER VEIW
10 energy for 6 secs arg and it's a elite like 6 sces of all most no dmg
stuff like mark of prot is now better so i dont agreee

dont feel no pain · Oct 02, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

like it used to be a nice prot skills but now it sucks PLZ AREANET NERF THAT SKILL ("pimp my ride")

Eonwe · Oct 02, 2005, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Wait a second... it was worth being an elite before they changed it? *shrugs*
If anything, it's better now than it was before.

smurfhunter · Oct 02, 2005, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by Eonwe

Wait a second... it was worth being an elite before they changed it? *shrugs*
If anything, it's better now than it was before.

i dont see how else you could prevent the rangers from distracting the ghostly (before the update)

although post update, what with the punishing shot spike kind of dead im not sure you need it that badly, everyones using rangers for traps nowrdays

gotta say tho, all you see in tombs is either IWAY teams or some kind of weirdo trapper/spike group.

Eonwe · Oct 02, 2005, 10:01 PM // 22:01

So it had.... one decent use, at the expense of your elite. Where do I sign up!?

smurfhunter · Oct 02, 2005, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Eonwe

So it had.... one decent use, at the expense of your elite. Where do I sign up!?

one use as in you either win the hoh or you dont.

you sign up right below where it says "uninstall GW"

Dovi the Monk · Oct 02, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54

I dont think their is another slightly spammable prot skill in the prot line up, that it not an enchan except for shield of Deflection.

Mark of Protection may be a better skill but it has a 45 sec recharge. Plus once a good team sees there going against MoP theyll switch targets.

Shield of regeneration is healing breeze + armor, with 20 sec recharge. Not exactly a good skill at the moment.

restore condition - a spammable condition removal that works rly well against a team using conditions. If u want to make a condition/hex with some prot monk in them a great skill, otherwise i think SoD beats this skill as well.

amity - a very nice skill that using high prot can work pretty well, except for the exception of AoE damage destroying it all. In a good spike team who only hits one target at a time, I love it. Except for the fact that it only works against rangers/warrior and the wand damage. Good skill against the ranger spike teams. Id still put SoD ahead of it in many teams if they use some sort of AoE.

So looking at all the prot skills its still probally the best one in just about every circumstance in my opinion.

smurfhunter · Oct 02, 2005, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Originally Posted by Dovi the Monk

I dont think their is another slightly spammable prot skill in the prot line up, that it not an enchan except for shield of Deflection.

Mark of Protection may be a better skill but it has a 45 sec recharge. Plus once a good team sees there going against MoP theyll switch targets.

Shield of regeneration is healing breeze + armor, with 20 sec recharge. Not exactly a good skill at the moment.

restore condition - a spammable condition removal that works rly well against a team using conditions. If u want to make a condition/hex with some prot monk in them a great skill, otherwise i think SoD beats this skill as well.

amity - a very nice skill that using high prot can work pretty well, except for the exception of AoE damage destroying it all. In a good spike team who only hits one target at a time, I love it. Except for the fact that it only works against rangers/warrior and the wand damage. Good skill against the ranger spike teams. Id still put SoD ahead of it in many teams if they use some sort of AoE.

So looking at all the prot skills its still probally the best one in just about every circumstance in my opinion.

you forget martyr, which isnt tied to any attribute. and life barrier. maybe something else i dont remmeber.

but the point is if you play a prot monk you dont *have* to run a prot attribute elite, i mean you can use spellbreaker just as an example.

anyway just saying

Dovi the Monk · Oct 02, 2005, 11:05 PM // 23:05

note i said not counting enchans in the beginning of my post. Id also rather use restore codnition then martyr in my personal opinion.

Also i was just noting how SoD is the prob the best elite skill in prot line up. Although spell breaker is another one of those once they discover your using it they switch targets if they know what there doing. Plus if your a prot monk and that against SoD that u want to use Spell breaker(why...?). I mean mark of prot = all damage is negated into health, instead of just blocking spells from opponent.